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Re: is pilotmgr still being worked on?
I'm running Linux, and I have none of the problems either of you
mention. I run PilotManager at least twice a day.
The "official" distributions of PilotManager *did* require some
tweaking to get them working on my machine. It helps tremendously to
install the /perl subdirectory of the pilot-link utilities before
trying to build PilotManager.
I disagree that maintaining perl and tk are problematic. Try
"perl -MCPAN -e shell", which has worked for me for a long time.
I have TWO working copies of PilotManager on my linux i386 system; one
is my original hand-installed copy from the distribution, the other is
from now-frozen Debian 2.1 packages. On the other hand, I've *never*
gotten PilotManager to work on my Sparc/Linux system, which runs
RedHat 5.2. I've used Linux since 0.99 kernels. I've used slackware, redhat,
debian, and suse distributions. In general, RPM-based distributions have
proven difficult to maintain, and I've had very little success with
locally built tools on these systems. Over against this is my
experience with Debian, which just plain works for me.
I'm not trying to start a distribution war, but by and large when
someone starts complaining that a given tool 'doesn't work under
Linux', my experience has been that it comes down to some
RedHat-specific quirk of their environment. It might help if someone
with PilotManager working on a RedHat system could put together an
RPM. (I'll certainly try, if I ever get it running on my Sparc/Linux
system).
Steve doesn't mention what his specific problem is, so I can't help
him. I do use SyncPlan, so I can comment on Dan's message; in the
past, the problems I've had with SyncPlan were actually related to
netplan and permissions. A good start at debugging these is to set up
your plan as a netplan client, rather than local access, and run
'/path/to/netplan -v -d', which will show details of the client/server
dialog. Once you have netplan running this way, try running syncplan.
The only other plan-related problem I have had is when SyncPlan
wouldn't load because /usr/lib/perl5/MD5.pm was on a bad sector...
- Jim
Tim writes:
> Steve, I am new to this list so I apologize for the reply list if it is incorrect.
> I have Sun's and Linux. As you said Pilot Manager has not been
> worked on for awhile and it is not currently working for Linux. At
> least not the version for Perl 5.003. The distribution site (Under
> Linux Perl 5.003) has TK 5.002 in the ftp location where they
> should have 5.003. I have not tried it yet but perhaps the 5.004
> versions are all correct. You need to upgrade to Perl 5.004 before
> you can try it however. Its a shame Perl and Tk have created a
> maintenance monster with problems larger than those created by
> writing the code in C and dealing with the system differences. It is
> very difficult to run different versions of Perl on the same system to
> be able to support different applications (not just Pilot) so I am
> unable to use the Pilot under Linux until the problems with the Pilot
> Manager site for version 5.003 are repaired. Since the original
> developer has left Sun, another person took over. I suspect since
> he also works for Sun that the Sun versions are in better shape
> with Linux being worked on as time allows. You are correct when
> you say you are not alone. In the free software world you either
> wait for the programs or you do have the option to do it yourself. I
> think its amazing that someone even wrote this for the Sun let
> alone Linux. I would be great if I could get off of Windoze95 though.
> Pilot and Pegasus e-mail are my only applications on Windoze95.
> (No I do not like Xmail!) Everything else I have is Sun or Linux
> nowadays.
> ,,, Tim
>
>
>
>
> Date sent: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:47:05 -0500
> From: Steven W Orr <steveo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Send reply to: steveo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: Dan Simoes <dans@xxxxxxx>
> Copies to: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: is pilotmgr still being worked on?
>
> > I too have lost the ability to use PilotManager. I am now running KPilot
> > until someone can fix PilotManager.
> >
> > People! It's broken! I'm not the only one! It doesn't work. If it works
> > under Solaris, then great. I'm under Linux. Lot's of us are.
> >
> > --
> > ----------Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana.----------------
> > --------Stranger things have happened but none stranger than this.-------------
> > Steven W. Orr steveo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <site of former bang addr:-)>
> > ---------------"Listen to me! We are all individuals."-------------------------
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Dan Simoes wrote:
> >
> > =>Looks like the files haven't been updated in some time.
> > =>My ability to use this tool has dropped since I got stuck on
> > =>a machine without the ability to run calendar manager, and
> > =>I can't get SyncPlan to work (plan works fine) even with
> > =>the latest beta.
> > =>
> > =>I'm willing to try other calendars - my only requirement is
> > =>that the calendar allows me to enter an email address for
> > =>alerts (instead of or along with, popups) and that I can
> > =>sync to the Pilot...
> >
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