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Re: is pilotmgr still being worked on?
- To: jim@xxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: is pilotmgr still being worked on?
- From: Patrick <penumbra@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:56:46 -0500 (EST)
- Cc: tim@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Dan Simoes <dans@xxxxxxx>, steveo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- In-reply-to: <13980.47409.915741.327313@osiris.kosmic.org>
- Reply-to: Patrick <pschoonveld@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Sender: owner-pilotmgr@moshpit
Well, I have PilotManager working fine on my RH5.2 box. Its a straight out
of the box RH5.2. My only beef is SyncCM won't work because I can't find
CDE for Linux and SyncPlay won't work because netplan in the plan package
won't work. (claims several S_'s are undefined, anyone know why?)
I would be happy to create an RPM of plan & PilotManager and put them out
for the world. But, I would need to learn to make RPM's (grin, easy I
suppose), and make plan work. Otherwise this thing is kinda worthless. The
calendar app is terrifically important and I have no clue why plan isn't
building.
So, can anyone help me with the plan stuff? I will figger out how to make
an rpm is you will help me out. Thanks.
Patrick Schoonveld
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On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Jim Nicholson wrote:
>
> I'm running Linux, and I have none of the problems either of you
> mention. I run PilotManager at least twice a day.
>
> The "official" distributions of PilotManager *did* require some
> tweaking to get them working on my machine. It helps tremendously to
> install the /perl subdirectory of the pilot-link utilities before
> trying to build PilotManager.
>
> I disagree that maintaining perl and tk are problematic. Try
> "perl -MCPAN -e shell", which has worked for me for a long time.
>
> I have TWO working copies of PilotManager on my linux i386 system; one
> is my original hand-installed copy from the distribution, the other is
> from now-frozen Debian 2.1 packages. On the other hand, I've *never*
> gotten PilotManager to work on my Sparc/Linux system, which runs
> RedHat 5.2. I've used Linux since 0.99 kernels. I've used slackware, redhat,
> debian, and suse distributions. In general, RPM-based distributions have
> proven difficult to maintain, and I've had very little success with
> locally built tools on these systems. Over against this is my
> experience with Debian, which just plain works for me.
>
> I'm not trying to start a distribution war, but by and large when
> someone starts complaining that a given tool 'doesn't work under
> Linux', my experience has been that it comes down to some
> RedHat-specific quirk of their environment. It might help if someone
> with PilotManager working on a RedHat system could put together an
> RPM. (I'll certainly try, if I ever get it running on my Sparc/Linux
> system).
>
> Steve doesn't mention what his specific problem is, so I can't help
> him. I do use SyncPlan, so I can comment on Dan's message; in the
> past, the problems I've had with SyncPlan were actually related to
> netplan and permissions. A good start at debugging these is to set up
> your plan as a netplan client, rather than local access, and run
> '/path/to/netplan -v -d', which will show details of the client/server
> dialog. Once you have netplan running this way, try running syncplan.
>
> The only other plan-related problem I have had is when SyncPlan
> wouldn't load because /usr/lib/perl5/MD5.pm was on a bad sector...
>
> - Jim
>
>
> Tim writes:
> > Steve, I am new to this list so I apologize for the reply list if it is incorrect.
> > I have Sun's and Linux. As you said Pilot Manager has not been
> > worked on for awhile and it is not currently working for Linux. At
> > least not the version for Perl 5.003. The distribution site (Under
> > Linux Perl 5.003) has TK 5.002 in the ftp location where they
> > should have 5.003. I have not tried it yet but perhaps the 5.004
> > versions are all correct. You need to upgrade to Perl 5.004 before
> > you can try it however. Its a shame Perl and Tk have created a
> > maintenance monster with problems larger than those created by
> > writing the code in C and dealing with the system differences. It is
> > very difficult to run different versions of Perl on the same system to
> > be able to support different applications (not just Pilot) so I am
> > unable to use the Pilot under Linux until the problems with the Pilot
> > Manager site for version 5.003 are repaired. Since the original
> > developer has left Sun, another person took over. I suspect since
> > he also works for Sun that the Sun versions are in better shape
> > with Linux being worked on as time allows. You are correct when
> > you say you are not alone. In the free software world you either
> > wait for the programs or you do have the option to do it yourself. I
> > think its amazing that someone even wrote this for the Sun let
> > alone Linux. I would be great if I could get off of Windoze95 though.
> > Pilot and Pegasus e-mail are my only applications on Windoze95.
> > (No I do not like Xmail!) Everything else I have is Sun or Linux
> > nowadays.
> > ,,, Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date sent: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:47:05 -0500
> > From: Steven W Orr <steveo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Send reply to: steveo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: Dan Simoes <dans@xxxxxxx>
> > Copies to: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: is pilotmgr still being worked on?
> >
> > > I too have lost the ability to use PilotManager. I am now running KPilot
> > > until someone can fix PilotManager.
> > >
> > > People! It's broken! I'm not the only one! It doesn't work. If it works
> > > under Solaris, then great. I'm under Linux. Lot's of us are.
> > >
> > > --
> > > ----------Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana.----------------
> > > --------Stranger things have happened but none stranger than this.-------------
> > > Steven W. Orr steveo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <site of former bang addr:-)>
> > > ---------------"Listen to me! We are all individuals."-------------------------
> > >
> > > On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Dan Simoes wrote:
> > >
> > > =>Looks like the files haven't been updated in some time.
> > > =>My ability to use this tool has dropped since I got stuck on
> > > =>a machine without the ability to run calendar manager, and
> > > =>I can't get SyncPlan to work (plan works fine) even with
> > > =>the latest beta.
> > > =>
> > > =>I'm willing to try other calendars - my only requirement is
> > > =>that the calendar allows me to enter an email address for
> > > =>alerts (instead of or along with, popups) and that I can
> > > =>sync to the Pilot...
> > >
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