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Re: Fwd: PilotManager
- To: Mark Shafton <Mark.Shafton@Ebay>
- Subject: Re: Fwd: PilotManager
- From: Kent White <kent.white@East>
- Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:53:14 -0400
- Cc: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Alan.Harder@Ebay, Klaus.Bergius@Germany
- Organization: Sun Microsystems (SunSoft)
- References: <libSDtMail.199807100644.25565.shafton@sjc01sbx3b>
Mark is right on the money!!!! Any issues I have had have always been
my error. It really does work great. Keep up the good work!!!
Kent White.
Mark Shafton wrote:
>
> "Me thinkst thou dost complain too much!"
>
> I normally stay out of philosophical debates but I can not resist this
> one. Whlie once I was a software engineer (can you say assembly language?)
> I have been in marketing for more than a decade so my skills are hardly
> what you would call sharp.
>
> I downloded PilotManager for the first time last sept. (1.002??). With
> the documentation on the site, I had it up and running on Solaris 2.4 in
> about 90 seconds. It has run ever since and has been upgraded several
> times, now running 1.100 and Solaris 2.5.1. I found the documentation to
> be right on the money and the two problems I had in almost a year turned
> out to be one user error, and one hardware failure. I have installed and
> set this up for more than a dozen of my colleagues, including a Solaris X86
> installation and even that took about 10 minutes.
>
> I for one think Bharat/Alan and the other CONTRIBUTORS have done an outstanding
> job and I am most greatful. I could not imagine working without my pilot
> now. When it broke, I was almost shutdown till the replacement arrived. :-)
>
> It amazes me that the loudest complainers seem to be the most techincal
> of this group. How can you be having more trouble than the marketing folks??
> I'm not even sure I could do some of the things I have seen described as
> workarounds. Sounds like trying too hard!
>
> I would echo Bharat's sentiments, if you don't like it, help fix it!
> We have all paid money for software which worked a whole lot worse than
> what we got here for FREE.
>
> Great Job! Keep up the good work, PLEASE.
>
> Mark
>
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:03:33 +0200 (MET DST)
> From: Klaus Bergius - SunSoft Germany - Munich <Klaus.Bergius@Germany>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: PilotManager
> To: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Alan.Harder@Ebay
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> > From: Peter.Jodda@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > In contrast to your normal mail I must say the Pilotmanager is a mess.
> > It does not work at all.
> > I downloaded the package. The call of PilotManager leads to
> > a 'perl can not find .....' .
> > This is not user friendly.
> > I have the latest versions of perl and Tk installed, but this does not
> > help.
> > Your Readmes are a joke.
>
> Sorry to say, but the guy is quite right actually.
> Bharat yesterday wrote something about
> 'ow, where did you get this old version' to somebody
> who was using 1.009-beta4. Actually I'm using it
> as well and you can get it from the same place where you
> copy the latest version, just a couple of lines below
> in the 'unsupported' section.
>
> So I got the latest packages and found that they don't
> work with the Sun ENS provided /usr/dist/exe/perl.
> I copied perl from perl.org as pointed out on the page.
> Compiled it, installed and tried perl -V:bincompat3, as
> suggested in some Readme. The option is not known to perl.
>
> So here I am, wasted Disk space for some perl
> stuff that I don't need normally and more important wasted
> 1 hour trying to make it work, but it still doesn't.
>
> Needless to say I'm still using the old 1.009-beta, because
> it simply installs and works and you can work with it after a
> couple of minutes.
>
> The guy is right, the stuff is absolutely not user friendly.
>
> -Regards,
> Klaus
>
>
>
> > In contrast to your normal mail I must say the Pilotmanager is a mess.
> > It does not work at all.
> > I downloaded the package. The call of PilotManager leads to
> > a 'perl can not find .....' .
> > This is not user friendly.
> > I have the latest versions of perl and Tk installed, but this does not
> > help.
> > Your Readmes are a joke.
> >
> > Why couldn't you write in C, which is easy to compile and debug?
> >
> > Is anywhere a description about the Hotsync-process and the dataformat.
> > Then I can write a C-program.
> >
> > The not happy
> > Peter Jodda
> >
> >
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> Best Regards,
> Klaus
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