Thanks everyone! (Re: Newsline: religious warfare breaks out in PilotManager mail-list)

[Platibus <platibus@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I wasn't trying to start a war, I was asking a question. Thanks to all the
participants in the discussion more questions have been raised and some have been
clarified. I hope that way we're all winners.

Maybe this is a good point to take the discussion offline and conserve bandwidth
in the list (I guess I've used up enough for today).

Thanks,

Thomas

Neal Pollack wrote:

> Oh My GOD! ...
>
> Not the religious wars again.
> Get a clue people.  There will NOT be a winner, this type
> of argument NEVER is won.  The reason there are different languages
> is because diff things appeal to diff people.
>
> Diff people like diff cars, stereos, speakers, house colors,
> clothing, food, mates, jobs.
>
> Person A trying to convince person B that his/her way is the
> only right way is a fool game.  Give it up.
>
> After 395482742 million pages of arguments in the press,
> guess what, there is still more than one OS.  Always will be.
> Same with languages.
>
> Just choose what you like and move on.
> Don't argue for the next 3 weeks on how the artist
> should hold which brand paint brush.  Get it?
>
> P.S.  I like perl *and* Java also.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Neal
>
> > From: Keith Edwards <kedwards@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > To: "Seth M. Landsman" <seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > CC: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: larger issue (Re: Linux install misses Tk)
> > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:15:54 PST
> >
> > Seth M. Landsman writes:
> >  >    *WHY* would writing java conduits be easier?  *WHAT* would make
> >  > them easier?  Perl is an excellent and complete language.  Java is an
> >  > excellent (and incomplete, compared to perl :)) language (the testbed for
> >  > my dissertation is written in java).  However, we're not using graphics.
> >  > We're not using low level sockets.  We are doing non-native database
> >  > processing and dealing with lots of text and string processing.  This is
> >  > *NOT* something java handles natively.
> >
> > *WHY* are you assuming that because some string functions are
> > implemented in Java rather than C that this is bad?  *WHAT* could
> > possibly matter about how the text processing is implemented?  *WHAT*
> > is the matter with simply plugging in a reasonable regular
> > expression matcher and a JIT to speed things along?
> >
> > Despite the fact that I'd love a PilotManager-like thingy written in
> > Java, I'm actually pretty happy with the current system.  It works on
> > my platform (Solaris), and works well.  I don't think the expense in
> > time required to port to Java is *necessarily* worth giving up other
> > things (more conduits, or short-term stability, for example).  I
> > believe that these pragmatic issues are valid arguments against
> > reimplementing in Java.
> >
> > It's just that I don't happen to believe your claim that because Java
> > doesn't "natively" implement text processing (whatever that means to
> > you) that it's a shut and dried case.
> >
> > -keith
> >
> >
> > ----
> > keith edwards
> > xerox palo alto research center
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