Re: Newsline: religious warfare breaks out in PilotManager mail-list

[Neal Pollack <nealpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Oh My GOD! ...

Not the religious wars again.
Get a clue people.  There will NOT be a winner, this type
of argument NEVER is won.  The reason there are different languages
is because diff things appeal to diff people.

Diff people like diff cars, stereos, speakers, house colors,
clothing, food, mates, jobs.

Person A trying to convince person B that his/her way is the
only right way is a fool game.  Give it up.

After 395482742 million pages of arguments in the press,
guess what, there is still more than one OS.  Always will be.
Same with languages.

Just choose what you like and move on.
Don't argue for the next 3 weeks on how the artist
should hold which brand paint brush.  Get it?

P.S.  I like perl *and* Java also.

Cheers,

Neal

> From: Keith Edwards <kedwards@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> To: "Seth M. Landsman" <seth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> CC: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: larger issue (Re: Linux install misses Tk)
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:15:54 PST
> 
> Seth M. Landsman writes:
>  > 	*WHY* would writing java conduits be easier?  *WHAT* would make
>  > them easier?  Perl is an excellent and complete language.  Java is an
>  > excellent (and incomplete, compared to perl :)) language (the testbed for
>  > my dissertation is written in java).  However, we're not using graphics.
>  > We're not using low level sockets.  We are doing non-native database
>  > processing and dealing with lots of text and string processing.  This is
>  > *NOT* something java handles natively.  
> 
> *WHY* are you assuming that because some string functions are
> implemented in Java rather than C that this is bad?  *WHAT* could
> possibly matter about how the text processing is implemented?  *WHAT*
> is the matter with simply plugging in a reasonable regular
> expression matcher and a JIT to speed things along?
> 
> Despite the fact that I'd love a PilotManager-like thingy written in
> Java, I'm actually pretty happy with the current system.  It works on
> my platform (Solaris), and works well.  I don't think the expense in
> time required to port to Java is *necessarily* worth giving up other
> things (more conduits, or short-term stability, for example).  I
> believe that these pragmatic issues are valid arguments against
> reimplementing in Java.  
> 
> It's just that I don't happen to believe your claim that because Java
> doesn't "natively" implement text processing (whatever that means to
> you) that it's a shut and dried case.
> 
> -keith
> 
> 
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> keith edwards 				
> xerox palo alto research center
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