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Re: [PilotMgr] double and triple appointments
- To: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Diane.Kerdock@xxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [PilotMgr] double and triple appointments
- From: hess@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Marty Hess)
- Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:56:04 -0700
- Sender: owner-pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>From owner-pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Tue Aug 28 19:33:41 2001
>Subject: [PilotMgr] double and triple appointments
>To: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Every now and then when I sync I get double of every
> appointment.
>
> It just happened again. I went in and deleted all the
> duplicates and resync'ed and now I have triple of every
> appointment.
>
> This is killing me. Does anyone know why this happens,
> how to fix it, and how to avoid it?
Diane & others:
Sorry all, but I've been remiss in my (semi-?)annual posting of this
note about how you can unknowingly create duplicate appointments on
Pilots. (I've been meaning to check if this still happens on my new
IIIxe & more recent PalmOS, but STILL haven't had a chance. And since
I've trained myself NOT to do this, it's hard for me to do it
intentionally now just to test if it's been "fixed." 8-)
No one said anything one way of another about the situation of this
on current Pilots since I last posted this info (Apr 2001), so there's
nothing I can add to update on it now.
Marty
P.S./FYI: I _still_ haven't had a duplicate app't since I "trained"
myself to either 1) only change repeating appt's on my desktop, or
2) only change them at their first occurance on the Pilot....
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>From hess Fri Oct 24 13:07:38 1997
To: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Arthur.Coleman@Eng
Subject: Re: new SyncCM calander names...???
>From owner-pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fri Oct 24 12:05 PDT 1997
>Subject: Re: new SyncCM calander names...???
>To: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
...
> 2. WIth sync-cm, I am finding that certain calendar events are duplicating when
> I copy between the Pilot and CM (on-going weekly commitments). This is true
> even when I change to have the Pilot overwrite my existing calendar (which means
> that the old appointment should be gone totally - so only 1 copy should show)>
>
> Is this occurring because when I delete, I save an archive to the PC?
>
> How do I stop this from happening and still stay in merge bidirectional mode (CM
> and pilot merge into each other's files)
>
> Arthur
Welcome to the Pilot's redefintion of the term "All". (I just recently
determined the source of my similar past problems with this.)
If you modify an existing repeating app't on the Pilot it splits that
app't into two different appt's, with the split occuring on the date
in the repeating series that you changed. And yes this happens even
when you select "All" in the "Apply to" popup!
The fact is -- and I think that this is a bug, but owners of the "old"
Pilots tell me it was that way there, too -- that the Pilot equates "All"
with what is presented as the "Forward" selection in CM.
So if you edit a future date in a repeating series on your Pilot and feed
only one way to CM (which is NOT in fact a complete overwrite of CM's
calendar) you end up with multiple, slightly different instances of that
app't. (One for each change that you made to the repeating series.)
The solution is to only edit repeating series at their source, or in the
past. (That way you'd never see or care about the duplicates.) In my
case I've narrowed the date range and I now edit them back at the start
of the previous month. (The start of my date range.)
I haven't had a duplicate app't since I discovered this and started
applying changes only to the first entry in the repeating series. (Just
since 10/9.) Also since then I've been merging both ways successfully as
well.
Now if someone would please write a HackMaster hack to change the button
label on the Pilot popup from "All" to "Forward" I'd be sure to never
forget again! 8-)
Marty
P.S. All this is easy enough to verify without harming your calendar, BTW.
Just create a new, bogus repeating app't on your Pilot, then edit it a few
instances out. (Change something obvious, like the alarm notification time
+ 10.) Then go back and compare what you find is now the app't definition
before and after that change date on the calendar. (Don't forget to delete
all the split-up bogus app'ts before you resync!)
Also note that "Delete" does delete "All" as do some other actions that
redefine the entire series, and that once split, they are truly two
distinct appt's and that even "Delete" won't delete both app'ts created
from such a split.
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