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Re: [PilotMgr] SyncCM conduit oddities
- To: pilotmgr@xxxxxxx, Robert.Doolittle@xxxxxxx, hess@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [PilotMgr] SyncCM conduit oddities
- From: Bob Doolittle <Robert.Doolittle@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:01:34 -0700 (PDT)
- Reply-to: Bob Doolittle <Robert.Doolittle@xxxxxxx>
- Sender: owner-pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks for this head's up, Marty.
Nobody has responded to what I consider to be the larger problem, though:
+ I synced a repeating appt with "Palm overwrites desktop", and I wound
up with dtcm showing a series of one-time appointments, one per week,
with the 'Change' button disabled on all of them.
I'd appreciate any tips or help.
-Bob
> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:39:17 -0700
> From: hess@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Marty Hess)
> To: pilotmgr@xxxxxxx, Robert.Doolittle@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [PilotMgr] SyncCM conduit oddities
> Sun-Proprietary-Confidential: Internal Use Only
>
> > [...] I was having odd problems where I
> > would have one appointment in my dtcm view but then after doing a full
> > sync I'd have two in dtcm or two on my Palm.
> [...]
>
> Sorry all, but I've been remiss in my (semi-?)annual posting of this
> note about how you can unknowingly create duplicate appointments on
> Pilots. (I've been meaning to check if this still happens on my new
> IIIxe & more recent PalmOS, but haven't had a chance. And since I've
> trained myself NOT to do this, it's hard for me to do it intentionally
> now just to test if it's been "fixed." 8-)
>
> Marty
>
> P.S./FYI: I _still_ haven't had a duplicate app't since I "trained"
> myself to either 1) only change repeating appt's on my desktop, or
> 2) only change them at their first occurance on the Pilot....
>
>
> ----- Begin Included Message -----
>
> From hess Fri Oct 24 13:07:38 1997
> To: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Arthur.Coleman@Eng
> Subject: Re: new SyncCM calander names...???
>
> >From owner-pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fri Oct 24 12:05 PDT 1997
> >Subject: Re: new SyncCM calander names...???
> >To: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Cc: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ...
> > 2. WIth sync-cm, I am finding that certain calendar events are duplicating
when
> > I copy between the Pilot and CM (on-going weekly commitments). This is true
> > even when I change to have the Pilot overwrite my existing calendar (which
means
> > that the old appointment should be gone totally - so only 1 copy should
show)>
> >
> > Is this occurring because when I delete, I save an archive to the PC?
> >
> > How do I stop this from happening and still stay in merge bidirectional mode
(CM
> > and pilot merge into each other's files)
> >
> > Arthur
>
> Welcome to the Pilot's redefintion of the term "All". (I just recently
> determined the source of my similar past problems with this.)
>
> If you modify an existing repeating app't on the Pilot it splits that
> app't into two different appt's, with the split occuring on the date
> in the repeating series that you changed. And yes this happens even
> when you select "All" in the "Apply to" popup!
>
> The fact is -- and I think that this is a bug, but owners of the "old"
> Pilots tell me it was that way there, too -- that the Pilot equates "All"
> with what is presented as the "Forward" selection in CM.
>
> So if you edit a future date in a repeating series on your Pilot and feed
> only one way to CM (which is NOT in fact a complete overwrite of CM's
> calendar) you end up with multiple, slightly different instances of that
> app't. (One for each change that you made to the repeating series.)
>
> The solution is to only edit repeating series at their source, or in the
> past. (That way you'd never see or care about the duplicates.) In my
> case I've narrowed the date range and I now edit them back at the start
> of the previous month. (The start of my date range.)
>
> I haven't had a duplicate app't since I discovered this and started
> applying changes only to the first entry in the repeating series. (Just
> since 10/9.) Also since then I've been merging both ways successfully as
> well.
>
> Now if someone would please write a HackMaster hack to change the button
> label on the Pilot popup from "All" to "Forward" I'd be sure to never
> forget again! 8-)
>
> Marty
>
> P.S. All this is easy enough to verify without harming your calendar, BTW.
> Just create a new, bogus repeating app't on your Pilot, then edit it a few
> instances out. (Change something obvious, like the alarm notification time
> + 10.) Then go back and compare what you find is now the app't definition
> before and after that change date on the calendar. (Don't forget to delete
> all the split-up bogus app'ts before you resync!)
>
> Also note that "Delete" does delete "All" as do some other actions that
> redefine the entire series, and that once split, they are truly two
> distinct appt's and that even "Delete" won't delete both app'ts created
> from such a split.
>
>
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>
Bob Doolittle Sun Microsystems Computer Corp
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