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Re: [PilotMgr] SyncCM conduit oddities



Marty


I have a Palm Vx, and OS V3.5.0.  I use PilotManager with SyncCM and I still get
duplicates...

It looks like if I add a new appointment to the palm, and do a sync, then change it
on the palm again I get into trouble.  I would need to test this, but I think I end
up with a duplicate.  It looks like some ID has not been updated correctly.  If I add
a new appointment, then run SyncCM twice, it updates the desktop first, then updates
the palm in the second update, then its happy.

I get this a lot if I add an appointment, do a sync, then I delete the appointment
from the palm before I do the second sync.  The appointment will come back again...
I haven't had the time to investigate what's going wrong, but it looks like something
to do with the IDs for the palm record and the calendar manager record.


Regards,

Darren

Marty Hess wrote:

> > [...]  I was having odd problems where I
> > would have one appointment in my dtcm view but then after doing a full
> > sync I'd have two in dtcm or two on my Palm.
> [...]
>
>   Sorry all, but I've been remiss in my (semi-?)annual posting of this
>   note about how you can unknowingly create duplicate appointments on
>   Pilots.  (I've been meaning to check if this still happens on my new
>   IIIxe & more recent PalmOS, but haven't had a chance.  And since I've
>   trained myself NOT to do this, it's hard for me to do it intentionally
>   now just to test if it's been "fixed." 8-)
>
>                                                         Marty
>
> P.S./FYI: I _still_ haven't had a duplicate app't since I "trained"
> myself to either 1) only change repeating appt's on my desktop, or
> 2) only change them at their first occurance on the Pilot....
>
> ----- Begin Included Message -----
>
> >From hess Fri Oct 24 13:07:38 1997
> To: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Arthur.Coleman@Eng
> Subject: Re: new SyncCM calander names...???
>
> >From owner-pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fri Oct 24 12:05 PDT 1997
> >Subject: Re: new SyncCM calander names...???
> >To: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Cc: pilotmgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ...
> > 2. WIth sync-cm, I am finding that certain calendar events are duplicating when
> > I copy between the Pilot and CM (on-going weekly commitments).  This is true
> > even when I change to have the Pilot overwrite my existing calendar (which means
> > that the old appointment should be gone totally - so only 1 copy should show)>
> >
> > Is this occurring because when I delete, I save an archive to the PC?
> >
> > How do I stop this from happening and still stay in merge bidirectional mode (CM
> > and pilot merge into each other's files)
> >
> > Arthur
>
>   Welcome to the Pilot's redefintion of the term "All".  (I just recently
>   determined the source of my similar past problems with this.)
>
>   If you modify an existing repeating app't on the Pilot it splits that
>   app't into two different appt's, with the split occuring on the date
>   in the repeating series that you changed.  And yes this happens even
>   when you select "All" in the "Apply to" popup!
>
>   The fact is -- and I think that this is a bug, but owners of the "old"
>   Pilots tell me it was that way there, too -- that the Pilot equates "All"
>   with what is presented as the "Forward" selection in CM.
>
>   So if you edit a future date in a repeating series on your Pilot and feed
>   only one way to CM (which is NOT in fact a complete overwrite of CM's
>   calendar) you end up with multiple, slightly different instances of that
>   app't.  (One for each change that you made to the repeating series.)
>
>   The solution is to only edit repeating series at their source, or in the
>   past.  (That way you'd never see or care about the duplicates.)  In my
>   case I've narrowed the date range and I now edit them back at the start
>   of the previous month.  (The start of my date range.)
>
>   I haven't had a duplicate app't since I discovered this and started
>   applying changes only to the first entry in the repeating series.  (Just
>   since 10/9.)  Also since then I've been merging both ways successfully as
>   well.
>
>   Now if someone would please write a HackMaster hack to change the button
>   label on the Pilot popup from "All" to "Forward" I'd be sure to never
>   forget again! 8-)
>
>                                                                 Marty
>
>   P.S. All this is easy enough to verify without harming your calendar, BTW.
>   Just create a new, bogus repeating app't on your Pilot, then edit it a few
>   instances out.  (Change something obvious, like the alarm notification time
>   + 10.)  Then go back and compare what you find is now the app't definition
>   before and after that change date on the calendar.  (Don't forget to delete
>   all the split-up bogus app'ts before you resync!)
>
>   Also note that "Delete" does delete "All" as do some other actions that
>   redefine the entire series, and that once split, they are truly two
>   distinct appt's and that even "Delete" won't delete both app'ts created
>   from such a split.
>
>
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